Friday, November 23, 2007

When we die, where do we go and when do we go there?
Mickey Robinson

Jews of Jesus' time argued about the whether or not of a resurrection.

Act 23:8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit; but the Pharisees confess both.

Greeks in Athens mocked the idea of a resurrection.

Act 17:32 And hearing of a resurrection of the dead, some indeed mocked; and others said, We will hear you again concerning this.

Paul believed in a resurrection but when does he see it happening? Is it when Jesus returns?

1Th 4:15 For we say this to you by the Word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not go before those who are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first.

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all will be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But each in his own order: Christ the first-fruit, and afterward they who are Christ's at His coming;

Or does it happen right after we die?

2Co 5:8 then we are confident and we are pleased rather to go away from home out of the body, and to come home to the Lord.

Php 1:23 For I am pressed together by the two: having a desire to depart and to be with Christ, which is far better.
Php 1:24 But to remain in the flesh is more needful for you.

This seems to be an old and ancient discussion. Calvin saw it this way:

"Moreover, to pry curiously into their intermediate state is neither lawful nor expedient. Many greatly torment themselves with discussing what place they occupy, and whether or not they already enjoy celestial glory. It is foolish and rash to inquire into hidden things, farther than God permits us to know. Scripture, after telling that Christ is present with them, and receives them into paradise (John 12:32), and that they are comforted, while the souls of the reprobate suffer the torments which they have merited goes no farther. What teacher or doctor will reveal to us what God has concealed?"

Maybe Calvin is right and we will never know the when of it but only the where (as in with the Lord somehow). And we should not take the visions and experiences of men as evidence. We do take the visions and experiences of men in the Bible as evidence don't we, but how much credence should we give post Biblical information?

What ever the answer, experiences such as those of Mickey Robinson and many like him have a convincing similarity and Scriptural flavor.

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